Yes Arturo , todo tiempo padaso fue peor. Nothing like the killing spree during Chavez' coup in 1992 for example, but it just so happens that Chavez got rid of all prison experts and replaced them with the same military responsible for those massacres. And prison densities have doubled in 12 years because not a single prison has been built. And these jails are completely controlled by the prisoners. They have been for 8 years and during 12 plans by the Chavez Government, except now the prisoners have total control, so it is worse now and on top of that when the Catia event happened, the Fiscalia was there, I think the Defensora del Pueblo arrived yesterday late after how many deaths and abuses? because human rights is not the forte of the Government, like those of the prisoners or the people outside. They still dont know if any prisoners died yesterday. I say we get rid of all military and jail those that participated in massacres. Except PSUV and the Government will suffer greatly. Remember the recently elected Deputy from El Amparo massacre? For that matter Comandante Fausto. Or Chavez. Se cansa uno